tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35493268.post4741314610877766623..comments2024-02-09T00:45:06.110-05:00Comments on Lisa Nanette Allender Writes: Lisa Nanette Allenderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15263158091013515471noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35493268.post-59291660622276617672008-11-02T20:50:00.000-05:002008-11-02T20:50:00.000-05:00Hmmmmm....Well, we may have to agree to disagree o...Hmmmmm....<BR/>Well, we may have to agree to disagree on there not being "artistry" in every job. When I say that, I don't mean it's merely "pretty", but there is a "precise-ness" to nearly every job. I myself have held, oh, probably close to 40-50 different kinds of jobs in my life, and when I say "artistry", I can honestly say there is a true beauty, a precise-ness.For example, when I worked at a coffe-bar long before Starbucks became ubiquitous:The steam pouring out of the capuccino-maker, steadying the tall cup for a froth of foam--viola': the perfect cup. And of course, the grace to serve the guest well.<BR/>Or tending plants at a nursery, and gently coaxing buds forth, etc..There really is artistry, I think in every job.<BR/>And while I've never been a garbage man, I bet there are those who've done it who would tell you there's a "rhythm"(spell?)to that job. And artistry, if one does it well.<BR/><BR/>In terms of artistic process being different, I guess we disagree there, too. If artistic process were not still a bit of a mystery, I doubt there'd be such a huge number of books on the subject.....for example, Uta Hagen's books on Acting, etc. etc..<BR/>btw, when I say something is different, it does NOT mean "better". I'm the very first to admit that the most special, valuable folks in the world are probably the farmers that grow our food, or the technicians that provide computers for us, or lighting for us to read by!Lisa Nanette Allenderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15263158091013515471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35493268.post-69370380777145520272008-11-02T00:52:00.000-04:002008-11-02T00:52:00.000-04:00It's a bit romantic to say there is "artistry in e...It's a bit romantic to say there is "artistry in every job". There's really zero artistry in garbage collection, for example, regardless of how crucial (and one might argue it's more crucial than "artist" or "writer" to the welfare of society) it might be.<BR/><BR/>I have to disagree that the artistic process is somehow "special" or "different". It's just disciplined creation.<BR/><BR/>I will also say that "society" doesn't reward anything. Athletes make money because THEY demand it, not because society forces riches upon them. Professional artists do make plenty of money - I know I pay graphic designers at least $100-125 per hour, and actual writers usually command $100 per hour or more. An "artist" who doesn't make a living at it is, as I say, a hobbyist, not an artist.<BR/><BR/>I can draw buildings for free to my heart's content, but I'm not an architect. When I get some credentials and a paying job drawing buildings, THEN - and only then - am I an architect.<BR/><BR/>Part of the reason there's such a glut of crap art and writing is because of amateurish self-glorification; when the pros start demanding professionalism in the field, THEN you'll see quality.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35493268.post-50547429033020107192008-11-01T02:26:00.000-04:002008-11-01T02:26:00.000-04:00Thank you for your tips. I would venture to say th...Thank you for your tips. <BR/>I would venture to say the method by which artists create is quite different from other jobs, which is why I posed the question about process. I believe I'm extremely disciplined(the more disciplined one is, the easier the path to inspiration), and I even manage to get paid to write, though I know lots of artists who do not manage to make a living from what they do best, because unfortunately, our society tends NOT to reward artists (unless they are movie-star actors, or "star" sports-players)... I have often said that there is artistry in EVERY job, and I mean that.Lisa Nanette Allenderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15263158091013515471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35493268.post-70577769013725317592008-10-31T17:44:00.000-04:002008-10-31T17:44:00.000-04:00Artists - or anyone else, there isn't really anyth...Artists - or anyone else, there isn't really anything *special* about artists - succeed when they behave professionally. Treat your work as your job - do it every day in a consistent manner, set deadlines, decide on pricing (if you do this stuff for free, you're a hobbyist, not an artist), market yourself, and so on.<BR/><BR/>MUCH more is accomplished when you simply realize you have to be professional.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com